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Fri, Aug 08, 08 - 1:51 pm
here here. almost inspiring eh? anyone want to start the anti-chair mag with me?


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Fri, Aug 08, 08 - 9:08 pm
Ohh nice sentiment but I was hoping for some meat. Are there actually any street presses that have real legs in Australia? Everything I've read is edited by advertising desperados or people who could actually pack a punch but because they are so integrated into the system they can't afford to.

I would like to read some ballsy street press.


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Tue, Aug 12, 08 - 11:49 am
I don't think this will come as a surprise to many people. I think he's got it spot on.

The only thing that is surprising is that ET & JDT have obviosuly been going to the same stylist (going by the blog pic and teaky's myspace pic).


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Tue, Aug 19, 08 - 2:58 pm
I blame British Press for The Vines.


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Tue, Aug 19, 08 - 8:08 pm
The Ezyrider wrote:
The only thing that is surprising is that ET & JDT have obviosuly been going to the same stylist.


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Thu, Sep 25, 08 - 12:28 am
What can I say?

1. We published an editorial dissing the door bitch of our major stake-holder in 2005 (the editor at the time thought it would make great reading - doh) ... $150,000 grand (in lost revenue) later and free kick to our competition!

2. We lambasted our competition for dodgy tactics with consecutive double page spreads.

3. Just ask ... there's heaps more where that came from. Lawsuits galore.

I got the balls to do it baby, not wet dreams from the sidelines! ;)

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Thu, Sep 25, 08 - 12:49 am
what are you talking about?


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Thu, Sep 25, 08 - 1:48 am
harto wrote:
what are you talking about?

ET suggests publishers kick out and grow some balls and not be beholden to advertisers. ET suggests that the mighty dollar forces publishers to pander to the advertiser. In fact ET talks about a lot.

Well I'm a publisher. My previous post has indicated that we are prepared to go to press with non-pandering material.

Which part of that wasn't apparent to you from the context of the thread and my post?

FWIW, ET's half right in that he raises the question of non-confrontational street press. Where he comes a cropper is putting the blame at the feet of the publishers. He'd be better placed looking at the consuming market, but that won't get him headlines. He'd basically have to call Australians - you lot - fuckwits.

He's much better placed to get a story like this calling my lot weak.

He (or anyone else for that matter) can disprove my whole line by cobbling together a mag of his dreams and telling it like it is and dissing whoever he wants. Hell, I'll even give him the start-up cash.

He and his commercial commentary is just one big blowjob. Anyone who wants to suck it up, can knock themselves out.


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Thu, Sep 25, 08 - 7:42 am
are you real?


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Thu, Sep 25, 08 - 8:03 am
scene66 wrote:
What can I say?

1. We published an editorial dissing the door bitch of our major stake-holder in 2005 (the editor at the time thought it would make great reading - doh) ... $150,000 grand (in lost revenue) later and free kick to our competition!

2. We lambasted our competition for dodgy tactics with consecutive double page spreads.

3. Just ask ... there's heaps more where that came from. Lawsuits galore.

I got the balls to do it baby, not wet dreams from the sidelines! ;)

http://www.scenemagazine.com.au


That's all well and good but what does it have to do with critiquing average music?


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Thu, Sep 25, 08 - 1:45 pm
your name has 'scene' in it.

you've got a lot of thinking to do about things, 'mate.'


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Thu, Sep 25, 08 - 7:00 pm
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harto wrote:
what are you talking about?

ET suggests publishers kick out and grow some balls and not be beholden to advertisers. ET suggests that the mighty dollar forces publishers to pander to the advertiser. In fact ET talks about a lot.

Well I'm a publisher. My previous post has indicated that we are prepared to go to press with non-pandering material.

Which part of that wasn't apparent to you from the context of the thread and my post?

FWIW, ET's half right in that he raises the question of non-confrontational street press. Where he comes a cropper is putting the blame at the feet of the publishers. He'd be better placed looking at the consuming market, but that won't get him headlines. He'd basically have to call Australians - you lot - fuckwits.

He's much better placed to get a story like this calling my lot weak.

He (or anyone else for that matter) can disprove my whole line by cobbling together a mag of his dreams and telling it like it is and dissing whoever he wants. Hell, I'll even give him the start-up cash.

He and his commercial commentary is just one big blowjob. Anyone who wants to suck it up, can knock themselves out.


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Fri, Sep 26, 08 - 12:06 am
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Sat, Sep 27, 08 - 1:56 am
The Ezyrider wrote:
That's all well and good but what does it have to do with critiquing average music?

Fair question.

In the vast vast majority of cases, street press (in Australia) and visual braodcast music programming (in Australia) dating back to Molly and ever since, has been reluctant to say "here's the latest from xyz - don't bother - it's shite."

Reason? Commercial reality. It's a tough enough road to make a quid anyway with advertising. To give a bad review on artist 'xyz' (let's say released on 'abc records') will all but guarantee that label not spending for not only that release but all other releases. Further the opposition mag that 'helps out the label with its dog of a release' will get a Christmas bonus and the next ad campaign exclusively.

Repeat dose for a couple of releases (with a view to building credibility or high readership for instance), and I can assure you that the publisher will quickly be an ex publisher, possibly complaining on bulletin boards about lack of independent reviews.

The income from street press comes from advertisers, not copies sold.

Copies sold huh? What about the plan of dissing the bad stuff, gaining credibility with readers, increasing circulation and encouraging advertisers to buy into a high circulating credible read? Doesn't work. Back to the old ex-publisher bin.

What about a plan that shifts the 'publisher's slavery to the advertiser' to the end consumer by printing the credible dissing of the crap band, then trying to sell the mag and generate circulation income instead? Been tried. Heaps of cover price mags out there. They're dropping like flies. Ex-(paid circulation) publisher bin for them.

Problem there is people don't want to pay for music journalism (in sufficient commercial quantities) when they can either get it for free in street press, or on the internet, or pay a sufficiently high price for it.

OK, that's the commercial woe part of it. Let's have a look at the saviour of the universe *choke* independent JJJ. Funded by the tax payer, voice of a generation *still choking* great white hope? Not a dirty income dollar in sight. I can't recall the last time that I flicked on JJJ and heard 'The Hour of Shite'. "Yes that's right folks, here are 10 releases by emerging (or established) artists that need a bullet. Don't waste ya money. This stuff is crap." Doesn't happen.

Can you imagine the same on Rage? 1am to 2am. We interrupt all these excellent clips to bring you an hour of utter shit. "We say so, we're independent and credible and after all you're footing the bill so we better tell you that John and Fred from Newcastle don't cut it - and truth be told - what they've pinned their career on is frankly nothing short of ordinary. We're your ABC."

Back to street press. What to do with crap releases? Well we tread a commercial middle ground. We elect not to review the weak stuff. Or if we do, we allow the reader to read between the lines and take away from the article what was not said, as opposed to what was said. That means we try and retain some semblance of credibility, and make sure we can also get next week's issue out.

OK, fuck this bullshit - there must be a way around it where readers can get the good oil and where advertisers can't buy silence or false positives. There is. And as I suggested in an earlier post, it will happen when consumers (in sufficient commercial quantities) decide that street press, or JJJ or TV Hits or whatever can go and get fucked.

In the interim, ET can have $50,000 from me to get going with his ideology, and when it falls in a heap (and it will) we can all idolise him as the guy who tried (and is now working at the quickie mart). [Ironic note: the start-up cash came from sold ads in a different (and still going) mag]

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The trend towards the internet. We have myriad (commercial) sites competing for eyeballs. Their content is all but music related and they rely on commercial spends from festivals and record labels. I wonder when people will start refusing to visit their sites (in effective commercial quantities) because the site refuses to bag a crap product, while accepting its ad bucks.

No commercial venture, radio, tv, print or web is in the business of saying that xyz sucks. Funny that.

And so to the non-commercial web-sites where we can write what we want ... until one day, the web-site publisher says "hey, we've a got a lot of hits here - this indie 'tell-it-like-it-is' is working - I don't have to do this for the love of it any more - I've got an audience - let's make a living and sell some ads!"

Oh shit :)


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Sat, Sep 27, 08 - 4:44 am
lay off the speed mate


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Thu, Nov 20, 08 - 7:03 pm
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/co ... 88,00.html.

this is funny

it reminds me of something. yes. It does.


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Thu, Nov 20, 08 - 7:43 pm
the latest rolling stone has an article written by everett about the "furore" the story has generated, even has a ralph steadmen style drawing of mr true being hassled by daniel johns.


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Fri, Nov 21, 08 - 8:07 am
Really?

That's ridiculous.


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Fri, Nov 21, 08 - 8:28 am
he talks about the nature (as he sees it) of music criticism and rolling stone have these put these pix of him with very dumb comments.


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Fri, Nov 21, 08 - 8:51 am
Poor guy. i don't always agree with his opinions on bands, but he's really spot on here and the way he's getting treated kind of proves it.

it all REMINDS ME OF SOMETHING.


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Fri, Nov 21, 08 - 9:38 am
From memory, I thought he kind of overstated the "controversial" nature of the original column in the follow-up he wrote. It seemed to me like the follow-up was a deliberate attempt to ruffle some feathers or something - and he came off looking like a bit of a twat..


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Fri, Nov 21, 08 - 10:33 am
harto wrote:
From memory, I thought he kind of overstated the "controversial" nature of the original column in the follow-up he wrote. It seemed to me like the follow-up was a deliberate attempt to ruffle some feathers or something - and he came off looking like a bit of a twat..


I completely endorse his comments about Silverchair, and i am very interested in how the local Industry has reacted to this, how they've attempted to discredit him by referring to his personal life and what this implies about how the music industry in Australia operates at the highest level.

The comments are extremely amusing as well. There's a substantial amount of people who agree with much ET has said, and I'd say I'm one of them.


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Fri, Nov 21, 08 - 3:49 pm
harto wrote:
From memory, I thought he kind of overstated the "controversial" nature of the original column in the follow-up he wrote. It seemed to me like the follow-up was a deliberate attempt to ruffle some feathers or something - and he came off looking like a bit of a twat..


so who is the bigger twat? the one who ruffles or the one who gets ruffled?


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